Wednesday, August 05, 2009

What terms of citizen Clinton's deal w/ No.Korea? About Sotomayer

I read the news and saw the faces of the two women who were working for politician Al Gore as they returned from North Korea. I am sure that they are happy to be back with their families. But there are MUCH greater issues at stake here, and I want to know what the terms were? What did Clinton who is not an ambassador or a President or an official anything, promise from the U S to secure their release?
What will it cost the U S for the foolishness of those two women?
For instance did Citizen Clinton promise NOT to prosecute North Korean spies in exchange for the liberty of the two North Korea accused of being spies?
Did he promise them billions from the so-called Stimulus money?
Did he promise them free access to the Pentagon or the U S Secretary of State's confidential files?
What did he promise to secure no prosecution of women who had been accused of illegally crossing borders to spy on them?
And what would the U S do in that situation? Would the U S says to those who crossed our borders from a known enemy country to spy on the U S : "go home and have a good life"??
When Clinton [Bill] was President the handshake on the White House lawn that was a major photo-op for him and them [Israel and Palestine], costs the U S a billion dollars in money transferred to them from U S taxpayers if I remember the figures correctly from the news.
What are the terms of the unofficial and illegal 'treaty' citizen Clinton made with North Korea?
The U S citizenry has a right to know this information.

Also I never wanted Hillary Clinton as any official person in any capacity but I am very glad now she did not become President. After threatening North Korea she had to get her husband to bail her out of the mess since she lost creditability with North Korea.
/s/ Gloria Poole, R.N. and artist, Denver Colorado 80203; @ 8:59 AM 5-Aug-2009
Update at 9:19AM after I thought on this some more. I have another question: does what citizen Bill Clinton did with North Korea constitute treason since he is not an ambassador duly appointed by the U S and he is not in any official capacity and his wife has no authority to delegate her authority as Secretary of State to him since he is not in her direct line of command? Treason is defined as 'adhering to the enemies of the United States" and if Clinton did not 'adhere to the enemies of North Korea that Pres Obama has declared enemy enough to threaten war with, how did he secure the release of spies by definition of North Korea. The North Korea definition of possible spies seems to be legitimate since the journalists crossed the borders illegally. Also another VERY IMPORTANT question is what other so-called treaties is Bill Clinton making unofficially as husband to the Secretary of State as incompetent as she is? And what constitutes an official 'treaty' for the U S to honor? Is the U S duty bound to honor any promise of citizen Clinton made in unofficial capacity acting in the realms of treason?
Here are what the written laws of the U S [Constitution] has to say on these topics:

United States Constitution:



See sections on treaties made and by whom and definition of treason:

Article III

Section 1. The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.

Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.


Article VI

All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.



Read the entire Constitution at this link:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlevi.html
9:21 AM 8/5/2009
Update again at 10:11 after more thought on this and more research of Constitution. Note that this is not the entire Constitution but relevant to this discussion of what constitutes treason, treaties, and who may be a Justice on Supreme Court and how does a state become a state:
About Sotomayer:is she a citizen since she was born to Puerto Rican parents according to the NY Times and Peurto Rico is NOT a state, and according to the Constitution only citizens could be any sort of official representative. Does a Justice on the Supreme Court "represent" the people of the U S or the people of Puerto Rico?

[And about who has the authority to delegate or commission officers in any capacity in the U S in this section:]
Quoting sections of U S Constitution as noted:

Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Section 4 - Disqualification

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

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Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress

He [President] shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

{Therefore Bill Clinton could not have been commissioned to act on behalf of the United States by his wife. Therefore the question arises, did Obama secretly commission Bill Clinton to go to North Korea and what did he tell him to do there? ]

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See section about who decides what a territory is? And is Puerto Rico an official territory and are people born to the Puerto Rican parents as the Sotomayer was, citizens with all privileges of naturalized or born in the U S ,citizens? Was she naturalized and when? She is not automatically a citizen with all privileges of citizenship if not.

Section 3 - New States

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

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Article VI - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
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[And about who is authorized to make treaties on behalf of the U S and what sort of treaties read this:}
Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

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